Bye everyone. Sick of the garbage. Don't care if you think you've "won." There are better places to spend time. Some of you are toxic - hope you don't spoil good times for people in your real life, if there are any.
Congrats to Laurie for being on the PTI team. I love her cards and based on the few interactions I've had with her during the CAS-ual Friday challenges, she seems really sweet. I won't be smacking on her. I just hope the inner workings of PTI don't frustrate her.
PTI is losing my favorite designers. :( First Jessica and now Christina. If they ever lose Betsy, they are in big trouble! Half the DT could leave and I wouldn't miss them. I won't name names because that's just mean, but the ones that are leaving are the better of the bunch. I hope Maile doesn't make a run for it too.
Actually, I cannot imagine how women go back to work with infants. I just don't get it. My kids did not sleep the night until they were toddlers and they seemed to want me around during the day for some odd reason. No way I would have time to be on a dt with a new baby. I could barely get a shower. But then I was one of those moms who held her baby instead of letting it cry. When my kids slept I slept so when they were awake I could be with them and the rest of my family.
So women who choose to be SAHM because they feel it is best for their families are self-righteous? So we really don't have choices that are acceptable anymore unless we join the rat race and make sure we have 2 incomes? Sad. My generation fought for the choice.
If being happy that my kids weren't schlepped to day care at the age of 6 weeks makes me self-righteous, then so be it. I'm happy to wear that label if that's what it means. I am blessed that my husband has an income that allows me to be home. We live very modestly and our cars are 8 and 12 years old. We made the CHOICE to give up some luxuries so that my babies had their mama there to hold them any damn minute of the day and kiss their sweet heads at nap time. Some women have no choice but to go back to work. I get that. If I was in that position, it would suck but you have to do what you have to do. Far better for the kids to be in day care than starving. BUT for those moms who go back to work just so they can have the fancier lifestyle, or a "sense of identity" or whatever crap you want to call it, they are selfish. The ones who pay for that luxury are the babies and toddlers.
BUT for those moms who go back to work just so they can have the fancier lifestyle, or a "sense of identity" or whatever crap you want to call it, they are selfish. The ones who pay for that luxury are the babies and toddlers.
I totally agree and feel the same way about men. My husband and I chose to opt out of the rat race and live off welfare. My kids are much better off with 2 parents to put them down for naps and make their homemade lunches and take them to the park.
thank gawd my husband didn't take the super selfish route of joining the military and leaving his kids and wife behind.
Nothing about joining the military is selfish...nice try, though. I can tell by your post you are one of the moms I was calling out. Go home and hug your kids. The money isn't worth it.
well 12:44 - anyone giving you kudos for choosing to live off welfare is as big of an idiot as you are.
You're teaching those children that they should let everyone else take care of them. These are not strangers. These are your friends, family and neighbors who are supporting you. By your example, your children will have no sense of a work ethic, the ambition to care for themselves, or the satisfaction that comes with knowing they can make their own place in this world. And if they do somehow manage that in spite of you, I hope they come to see how foolish, and truly selfish, your decision was.
Your insult to the military was just about as disgusting as that you have chosen to live off welfare. All of your freedoms have been secured by those who have chosen to serve. Shame on you.
Yikes. I didn't mean for the conversation to go here. I wrote 10:05.
I guess what I was saying is that I don't see crafting for a living as a real job. I see it as a hobby that you might make a tiny bit of money doing in your spare time. And when a new baby comes along you don't have much spare time.
Don't get me wrong - I'm sure these girls work very hard doing what they do - I always see it as sort of a hobby. And in my book a new baby outweighs hobby every single time.
I don't begrudge any SAHM or work outside the home moms their choices or necessities or anything. I'm not really judging anyone at all. It's just how I view work in the paper craft industry (notice I didn't say they workers, just the work).
I know my perception comes from the fact that *for me* papercrafting is just that...a hobby. And I have 2 little kids so you can imagine I don't do much of it. I'm just glad no one expects me to either. It would be hard for me to make cards for a deadline when I'd rather be hugging and snuggling on my new little baby. I would have to leave the house and go to an external studio to get any actual work done.
I have a feeling 12:44 got snippy because she works and doesn't NEED to, so she threw out some ridiculous counter-arguments. Some moms NEED to work. I pray for those ladies because it must be so hard! I'm sure many, if not most, of them would love to stay home with their kiddos but their circumstances don't allow for that.
do you believe that kids who are raised by a parent who works full time outside the home and a stay at home parent end up "better" than kids who are raised by two parents who work full time outside the home. And if so, could you define "better"?
Because isn't it really about what happens to the children and not the parents' comfort or beliefs?
My "baby" is in preschool so this SAHM has a few quiet hours each day to spend online or stamping or whatever. Where's the irony in that? Oh wait, you're assuming I'm neglecting my children to spend time here. How judgmental of you!! ;) There's your irony.
2:18, since you are a SAHM I wonder if you could address the question I asked at 2:07 pm. I ask because i have often wondered if I made the right decision. Do you think your kids will turn out better because you did not work at were home for them? If so, in what way?
And if not, then what difference does it make? I don't know the answers and am not interested in the nonsense and anger spewed by so many. Just would love an anonymous honest discussion.
Can we move on from this crap! Everyone works hard in their own way! How many of you bought the PTI kit or plan on getting it? I personally don't think is not worth it. There are so many awesome kits out there for a whole lot less money.
of course no one answered your question because they know that there is no relation between staying home and how your kid ends up. i am a SAHM. I do it for me. I want to be with my kid. I have no idea whether this will help. but i have no interest in running around my with head cut off when my kid is sick and i have to be at work. been there done that.
2:18 here. Since I am a SAHM, it won't take a rocket scientist to know which side of this fence I'm on. A little background on me first, though. I have advanced degrees and had a very successful corporate career prior to marrying and deciding to have children. I was the bread winner. However, I have known since I was a teen that I would be a SAHM when that time came. (More on that later). That didn't stop me from pursuing a career since there was no guarantee that I would ever have children. When my husband and I got married, we bought a home based on his income alone since we knew that my income would one day go away. I was making well into 6-figures when I got pregnant. I walked away without a second look back. Why? Because there is no one on God's green earth who will love, care for and protect my babies better than me and my husband. I don't care how fancy or expensive your nanny or daycare center is, your baby is not their #1 priority in life. No matter what they tell you. Fast forward a few years to when my oldest hit kindergarten. He came to me one day confused because he learned that not all mommies are home with their little ones. He was genuinely concerned for them asking who was taking care of them. When I explained that sometimes mommies and daddies both have to work and the kids go to day care or after school care, he said that he was so happy that I was at home with him when he got home from school. That alone was worth all the hundreds of thousands of dollars I walked away from. Once all of my kids are in school, I will continue to stay home because of what I realized as a teen. A bad teen, at that. I grew up in a working parent family as did some of my friends. We were the ones who got in trouble because we had access to money and not such great supervision. Our parents were busy and were never home when he got home from school. They often left earlier in the morning than we did. And we were slick...too smart for our own goods. I did many things I'm not proud of. I scared myself straight at about 16. I won't worry you moms of teens with the details. On the other hand, my friends whose moms didn't work were the "good kids". They had family dinner EVERY NIGHT. Their moms were room moms and PTA and always volunteering at school. My friends often hated that their parents were so involved, but the bottom line is that they were the GOOD KIDS!! Seriously, all of them! I can't imagine that there isn't a correlation there. I'm sure others will have stories contradicting mine, but this is my life experience and the lessons I personally have learned. I have based my decision to be a SAHM on these lessons.
2:57, I think there are too many other factors to consider besides whose mom stayed at home and whose mom worked.
Does the working mom spend meaningful time with her kids on weekends and in the evenings? Is the SAHM frazzled and resentful about her choice to stay home because she has no "me" time? Is there love in the home regardless of work status? Is dad around? There are so many exterior factors that decide how kids turn out. I'm learning as I see others with older kids (high school and older) that a lot of it has to do with choices the kids themselves make. Just do your best.
If you are SAHM and hate it, there's nothing wrong with that. If you work and hate that and are able to quit, do it. If you hate your situation but can't do anything to change it, readjust your attitude.
In either situation the parents can be loving and nurturing. I think that is what matters most. I come from a home where my single mom worked all the time so I don't really know if my life would have been better or different had she not worked. We aren't super close now but that has little to do with the first 4 years of my life and more to do with the last 20 years.
3:11 again. After I read the comment above mine, I have to add that I wasn't a trouble maker either. I was a bit rebellious as a teen but never once tried drugs, never was out partying, I've never even tried a cigarette. Not because I wasn't exposed to it...my cousins were total pot heads, my sisters both tried smoking cigs before. I was just not a risk taker.
A lot has to do with the inner workings of the kid...are they prone to follow or lead? Do they have confidence to not give a crap what others think of them walking the straight and narrow path? Do they tend to want to push boundaries? Soooooo many factors determine how our kids turn out.
But by your questions you seem like a parent who really cares. I'm sure you are doing your best. I can't say they will turn out fine though. Just pray (if you do that) and love them with all you have.
thanks for the responses. looks to me from the few anecdotes above that the status of the mom working may not matter. 3:09, your mom worked and you sound like you turned out fine. I don't think anyone has established a correlation between moms that work outside the home and how their kids turn out. We all know kids who are nightmares with SAHMs and vice versa.
but i have to say that intuitively it seems like moms who are home should have calmer, happier home lives and kids but it doesn't seem to work that way.
I worked and yes, my kids were in day care from age 6 months. We could have lived in a cheaper area and I could have stayed home, but we liked the schools where we were and I wanted to make sure we would have enough $$ to live in this town. My kids are now 16 and 24. The 16 year old plays hockey and is an honor student. No troubles at all. My 24 year old daughter graduated from high school and became a hair stylist. College wasn't for her. She is not married, but has a steady boyfriend. She lives with us while she saves for her own place.
I think my kids came out fine. Please do not pity me or my kids and make statements that denigrate my choice without having something solid to back it up. I do not think less of you for staying at home but I do think less of you for criticizing me.
I broke down the kit the other day and it seemed worth it to me - I liked everything but for about $10 worth of the cheaper stuff. But even though I felt the pricing was fair and reasonable, and I liked some of it, I decided to save that $ for something that I loved a lot more that I'm sure will come up. I bought a few things at WMS and will be watching the upcoming pti release. I'm liking a couple of other companies too. Taylored Expressions comes to mind.
I do think the person from a few days ago was right that those nested dies are going to be a new thing for regular pti releases too.
I had a SAHM....I was a nightmare teen. I have a teenager now, I have always worked but I have modified my work schedule and even changed careers so I could be home by the time my daughter got home from school. I would like to say that I have a "really good kid". She has never gotten into trouble outside the normal teen attitude every once in a while. All my friends and family members have nothing but great things to say about my teen. Like the poster above said, there are many factors to determine how your kids will turn out regardless of wether a parent stays home or not. We had dinner every night together, we took family vacations, we had a nice house, we had nice clothes and my mom kept our house in order...BUT we had no communication. I have respect for all the SAHM because I saw my own mother do it and seen how much work that is, but I also have respect for working moms because I am one and know how hard it is to balance that all as well.
4:18 pm, I believe that they are the regular IPs. But they have included letterpress paper in the kit because the paper is thicker and softer which allows the IP to make a deeper impression on it.
Discussions about the mommy wars will never go nicely. We are all doing what we think is best. No good mother says "hey, I know this will screw up my kids, so I'm gonna do it!" Let's just move on. No one will convince someone else to do or not do anything because of a comment left on a smack blog. Deep breath. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
How are those Flourishes orders coming along? Anybody get theirs?
Popping in to say I finally got my Flourishes order today! I ordered on Feb. 17th for time reference. My order was fine, everything was there. Hope whoever else is waiting on their order gets it soon!
2-I believe in full-time parenting. I always would have regretted part-time parenting no matter how my kids turned out.
3-As a teacher for many years in many different types of schools the one think I know for sure is that the SAHM's almost always have the best kids and produce the best results. Not a bias, simply a fact. The fact that they make the kids the priority right there makes a huge difference in HOW they parent.
4-Ask your kids if quality time over quantity makes a difference. There is no 3 year old in the entire world that would rather be at daycare. If you say your kid would, then that scares the shit out of me. If your kid prefers such a setting to being with mom at that age, the bonding was never complete and things are headed your way that you don't want to envision.
5-Moms who put career over kids DO send a certain message about money being a priority over kids.
6-If you had one TV, one car for the family, a small home, and no internet, cell phone, cable, fancy vacations, etc. I will bet almost all working moms could live in one income. Single moms are a whole other basket of worms anyway.
7-People's priorities are shown and not said. You can tell your kids all you want that they are first in your life, but if you are not there when they need you, whenever they need you, they know the truth.
^^^ what a self righteous bunch of bull shit. OMG. You make SAHMs look like morons. I'll do my best to assume that you speak only for yourself but really you are an ass. i'm thinking of my sahm sister in law who has always been there for her kids. I love my sil and think she is and was a terrific mom. Too bad my nephew died of a heroin overdose.
and Just remember honey. half of marriages end in divorce. don't come crying to me when your husband tires of living with a "perfect" woman and leaves you with nothing.
No one said that SAHM's don't ever have kids with problems. Some do have mental illness, addictions, etc. SAH parenting cannot overcome brain chemistry gone bad. BUT at least the SAHM doesn't have to wonder if it would have turned out if she had been a full time parent.
hey, be grateful for what you have, whatever it is. if you are at home and think it is best, enjoy it and be quiet. if you work, and think it is best, enjoy it and be quiet. i'm embarrassed to be a woman reading this blog lately. Rick, you must be laughing your ass off.
I am grateful for my life and keeping quiet is a sign of a person who doesn't care about society. All it takes is for enough people to keep quiet and you have what we are experiencing with kids in general these days.
I'm with you 10:00 AM. But more sad than embarrassed. Why is it that there are some women who feel the need to tear other women down instead of support them? There are generations of women that come before us that fought to give us the ability to choose for ourselves what is best for our lives. No matter whether you work or stay at home, support each other!! We are all women.
I just learned that THE Jennifer McGuire lives in Cincinnati right along with PTI. I do find it interesting that someone who has had such a long successful career in this industry was never a part of PTI DT or anything. She rocks...I love her!! Have you seen the pics of her new craft room?? Unreal. She posted one to her Instagram.
Jennifer works in the industry, meaning that she makes real money at that. You cannot make any money working on a DT, including PTI's. That is why as many DT members as possible try and design stamps or leave to create their own companies. PTI is no different than most stamp companies -- they give free product and maybe a few dollars to these women. Kind of sad but whatever.
In addition, there is a whole world of papercrafting big wigs who NEVER use PTI and never have -- Julie Ebersole, Kristina Werner, etc. You'll have to ask them why. (smile)
All of those girls you mentioned ^ are SO good! I want to just hang out with them in their craft rooms for a few days. Is that creepy? :) Everyday I check out Jennifer's, Julie's, and Kristina's blogs. They are the reason I have bought so much Mama Elephant, Avery Elle and other SSS and EH lately. I would be interested to hear why they never use PTI products, though. Especially Jennifer since she was such a big Paper Crafts go-to gal, which had a strong PTI bias in its published cards.
I don't know why. Maybe it is because they are focused on promoting products for compensation. this is not a criticism. the more we all can make the better!!!
I think people make way too big of a deal out of DT members. They make cards. Big whoop.
PTI should farm out their products to distributors. Let people buy their products at other online stores. Their biggest challenge seems to be customer service and shipping,so just take that out of the equation and they would do better.
It is much better business model for stamp companies to sell online themselves (& possibly through online stores) and to stay away from distributors & brick & mortar stores. Look at all the LSSs that have closed.
Jennifer used to work a lot more for Hero Arts, especially when their catalogs used to be a hot item to buy and collect. Now she freelances for many companies.
^^^ Forgot to add that Jennifer now seems to be mainly working via her blog and Youtube channel. Which is good for all her followers, including me. LOL
You have to admit that blogs, Yutube and Pinterest have changed the way all of us look for and find ideas & inspiration and new stamps to buy.
Kim Hughes was on the PTI DT before she left to start Paper Smooches. Betsy and Jessica were also Go-To Gals. There's a strong PTI history with the go to gals and Paper Crafts mag.
Betsy still is a go-to-gal. :) I knew Kim and Jessica were once go-to-gals and that Jessica was once on the PTI DT. But I don't think Kim was ever on the PTI DT.
online retailers take 50% of the gross sales. So if a stamp set sells for $24, the online store gets $12. PTI and others are MUCH better off with a small staff so that they can reap more of their profit. However, you make a good point. If your CS is so bad that you lose customers, then selling wholesale is the way to go.
On the DT thing, I agree. In the tiny little world of stamping, being on PTI's DT is considered amazing, when almost all stamped cards are viewed as a joke by anyone outside the hobby.
Jennifer, Kristina and Julie have been around a lot longer than PTI. They've built up a good following and don't need (or want, probably) to be associated with PTI.
I know that Kristina doesn't hesitate to use SU inks in her videos and now SSS & AE. Jennifer has always used HA inks and then TH Distress inks, now she is using SSS and AE inks. They both now work with SSS, so it is not surprising. Although I am sure that they would not promote products that they did not like.
Julie was with A Muse for a long time and there is a history between PTI and A Muse that is not good. I imagine this is why Julie never had anything to do with PTI. In fact, I don't know an A Muse DT that ever crossed that line.
I remember her. I used to check her blog all the time until all of her cards started looking the same (and boring at that) and she kept using stupid words like cuppa, ginormous and chortle.
That's the one. Everything was Uber Super Awesome Sauce. Her peeps were the most spesh people in the world and they made fabby cards and were soooooooooo fristy-frosty.
Julie's word choice is a bit annoying, but I really like her cards. Like many designers, she definitely has a "style" that is easily identifiable. I think it's cute. To each his/her own.
Nichole has had a falling out with more people than you can imagine including Lauren, Gina K., Julie and too many to name. There are a number of people in the business that don't want to be associated with Nichole in any way. They want their integrity to be unquestioned and being in any way connected to Nichole makes a person suspect.
There was a pact for a bunch of these women to silently walk away, never say a bad word about Nichole, and pray for Karma. It all made me believe in Karma as I have watched what has happened.
the other day i was thinking about life and this blog and decided tolet you all know what i am thinking. i'm thinking that this blog is an abomination on the sanctity of the paper crafting community. please repent, seek forgiveness, and resolve to never post here again. and when you are done sahm you may go into the kitchen and bake. and the engineer cn go backto work and be good there too. the inks are fine and vey nice. i like all the monkey stamps offered by stamp companies. do they stamp ok or are they an abominatin too whent he fountain spills the water we all get wet and then need a towelto dry off and that is the end of the sotry except it keeps on going and going and then the boy confessed to who did it and his mom cried because she wanted the shower curtain to be pink and not blue and then the lamp went on and on and yes i have proof but the if i told you who i was the money and the monkey would be no one would like me. amen amen i say to you amen. please be nce today it is all that matters except for the monkeys and the lamps and the shower curtains. i need my meds
I always thought that Nichole started with Stampin Up. Maybe I'm wrong. Does that have anything to do with her and Kristina Werner not being pals?
KW, that's another one I could smack all day on this blog. She gives the impression that her stuff doesn't smell. But rather than spend energy on someone I don't care for, I'm moving on.
I don't get that impression of KW at all. Her videos are well done and I like her blog. There are enough designers that we can find the ones that fit our tastes.
I visited Julie E's blog after the reminder here. Like 9:25, I had been put off in the past by some of her writing style. I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw in my visit. Seems to be enough inspiration there to keep me going back. And I no longer read blog posts ,,,,, I just look at the pictures!
I like some of Julie's cards. But she uses tweezers for every.little.thing! She doesn't like to get her hands dirty. WTH? I like some of Kristina's videos. But too much faux stitching and rounded corners. I like Jennifer's videos. Her fingers get inky! LOL
Ahh Jennifer Ellefson, I did feel sorry for her, she really did just *disappear* from PTI, I don't think I ever saw her come back and just comment as a stamper and she stopped blogging in 2011.
I've seen her post on other people's facebook pages. I imagine life is a bit easier without being the front line at pti when things were at their worst.
Poor Jennifer. She was really sweet. I remember she offered to pay a customer out of her own pocket on the forum when Nichole and Julie were being stubborn during one of the public backlashes of a customer service fail. For a while she was still getting together with a few girls in the VA area when they had stamp weekends or whatever. I saw her in pictures some of them posted on their blogs.
Woah! I fell down the rabbit hole of the Truth About Ruth blog that was posted the other day. Major crazy on that one and I'm only just now getting into the SCS stuff. I remember seeing posts from Scarlett on SCS, though I don't think I ever posted to her. That whole thing is seriously f'ed up.
1st bitches!
ReplyDeleteBye everyone. Sick of the garbage. Don't care if you think you've "won." There are better places to spend time. Some of you are toxic - hope you don't spoil good times for people in your real life, if there are any.
ReplyDeleteCongrats to Laurie for being on the PTI team. I love her cards and based on the few interactions I've had with her during the CAS-ual Friday challenges, she seems really sweet. I won't be smacking on her. I just hope the inner workings of PTI don't frustrate her.
ReplyDeletePTI is losing my favorite designers. :( First Jessica and now Christina. If they ever lose Betsy, they are in big trouble! Half the DT could leave and I wouldn't miss them. I won't name names because that's just mean, but the ones that are leaving are the better of the bunch. I hope Maile doesn't make a run for it too.
ReplyDeleteI always wonder about any crafters' ability to maintain the demands of a design team right after having a baby.
ReplyDeleteDo you also question a mother's ability to go back to work after childbirth. Your statement makes no sense.
ReplyDeleteActually, I cannot imagine how women go back to work with infants. I just don't get it. My kids did not sleep the night until they were toddlers and they seemed to want me around during the day for some odd reason. No way I would have time to be on a dt with a new baby. I could barely get a shower. But then I was one of those moms who held her baby instead of letting it cry. When my kids slept I slept so when they were awake I could be with them and the rest of my family.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm done. Not because of the monkey business, but because of the self righteous crap like 10:32 posted. UGH.
ReplyDeleteSo women who choose to be SAHM because they feel it is best for their families are self-righteous? So we really don't have choices that are acceptable anymore unless we join the rat race and make sure we have 2 incomes? Sad. My generation fought for the choice.
ReplyDeleteIt's always slow and a little off between releases &/or screw-ups.
ReplyDeleteIf being happy that my kids weren't schlepped to day care at the age of 6 weeks makes me self-righteous, then so be it. I'm happy to wear that label if that's what it means. I am blessed that my husband has an income that allows me to be home. We live very modestly and our cars are 8 and 12 years old. We made the CHOICE to give up some luxuries so that my babies had their mama there to hold them any damn minute of the day and kiss their sweet heads at nap time. Some women have no choice but to go back to work. I get that. If I was in that position, it would suck but you have to do what you have to do. Far better for the kids to be in day care than starving. BUT for those moms who go back to work just so they can have the fancier lifestyle, or a "sense of identity" or whatever crap you want to call it, they are selfish. The ones who pay for that luxury are the babies and toddlers.
ReplyDeleteBUT for those moms who go back to work just so they can have the fancier lifestyle, or a "sense of identity" or whatever crap you want to call it, they are selfish. The ones who pay for that luxury are the babies and toddlers.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree and feel the same way about men. My husband and I chose to opt out of the rat race and live off welfare. My kids are much better off with 2 parents to put them down for naps and make their homemade lunches and take them to the park.
thank gawd my husband didn't take the super selfish route of joining the military and leaving his kids and wife behind.
Nothing about joining the military is selfish...nice try, though. I can tell by your post you are one of the moms I was calling out. Go home and hug your kids. The money isn't worth it.
ReplyDeleteI think she was being sarcastic.
Deletewell 12:44 - anyone giving you kudos for choosing to live off welfare is as big of an idiot as you are.
ReplyDeleteYou're teaching those children that they should let everyone else take care of them. These are not strangers. These are your friends, family and neighbors who are supporting you. By your example, your children will have no sense of a work ethic, the ambition to care for themselves, or the satisfaction that comes with knowing they can make their own place in this world. And if they do somehow manage that in spite of you, I hope they come to see how foolish, and truly selfish, your decision was.
Your insult to the military was just about as disgusting as that you have chosen to live off welfare. All of your freedoms have been secured by those who have chosen to serve. Shame on you.
Yikes. I didn't mean for the conversation to go here. I wrote 10:05.
ReplyDeleteI guess what I was saying is that I don't see crafting for a living as a real job. I see it as a hobby that you might make a tiny bit of money doing in your spare time. And when a new baby comes along you don't have much spare time.
Don't get me wrong - I'm sure these girls work very hard doing what they do - I always see it as sort of a hobby. And in my book a new baby outweighs hobby every single time.
I don't begrudge any SAHM or work outside the home moms their choices or necessities or anything. I'm not really judging anyone at all. It's just how I view work in the paper craft industry (notice I didn't say they workers, just the work).
I know my perception comes from the fact that *for me* papercrafting is just that...a hobby. And I have 2 little kids so you can imagine I don't do much of it. I'm just glad no one expects me to either. It would be hard for me to make cards for a deadline when I'd rather be hugging and snuggling on my new little baby. I would have to leave the house and go to an external studio to get any actual work done.
I think 12:44 was being facetious.
ReplyDeleteThanks 1:17 - I certainly hope so, but there are people who really think that way and it's pretty frightening.
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling 12:44 got snippy because she works and doesn't NEED to, so she threw out some ridiculous counter-arguments. Some moms NEED to work. I pray for those ladies because it must be so hard! I'm sure many, if not most, of them would love to stay home with their kiddos but their circumstances don't allow for that.
ReplyDeleteon a serious note, with no snark intended.
ReplyDeletedo you believe that kids who are raised by a parent who works full time outside the home and a stay at home parent end up "better" than kids who are raised by two parents who work full time outside the home. And if so, could you define "better"?
Because isn't it really about what happens to the children and not the parents' comfort or beliefs?
omg, a bunch of SAHMs wasting precious time on a smack blog. got to love the irony! go mommy wars!!
ReplyDeleteToo simplistic. There are too many other factors to consider.
ReplyDeleteI'm not at work right now, but if I were, I would probably still grab a few minutes on break to do whatever I want. Including this. Don't assume.
ReplyDeleteSAHMs get some down time, too.
ReplyDeleteMy "baby" is in preschool so this SAHM has a few quiet hours each day to spend online or stamping or whatever. Where's the irony in that? Oh wait, you're assuming I'm neglecting my children to spend time here. How judgmental of you!! ;) There's your irony.
ReplyDelete2:18, since you are a SAHM I wonder if you could address the question I asked at 2:07 pm. I ask because i have often wondered if I made the right decision. Do you think your kids will turn out better because you did not work at were home for them? If so, in what way?
ReplyDeleteAnd if not, then what difference does it make? I don't know the answers and am not interested in the nonsense and anger spewed by so many. Just would love an anonymous honest discussion.
Can we move on from this crap! Everyone works hard in their own way! How many of you bought the PTI kit or plan on getting it? I personally don't think is not worth it. There are so many awesome kits out there for a whole lot less money.
ReplyDeletethis is 2:25 again. I am disappointed that no SAHMs responded.
ReplyDeleteAnd for 2:37, I did not buy the kit. I don't like the contents.
of course no one answered your question because they know that there is no relation between staying home and how your kid ends up. i am a SAHM. I do it for me. I want to be with my kid. I have no idea whether this will help. but i have no interest in running around my with head cut off when my kid is sick and i have to be at work. been there done that.
ReplyDeletei bought the kit.
2:18 here. Since I am a SAHM, it won't take a rocket scientist to know which side of this fence I'm on. A little background on me first, though. I have advanced degrees and had a very successful corporate career prior to marrying and deciding to have children. I was the bread winner. However, I have known since I was a teen that I would be a SAHM when that time came. (More on that later). That didn't stop me from pursuing a career since there was no guarantee that I would ever have children. When my husband and I got married, we bought a home based on his income alone since we knew that my income would one day go away. I was making well into 6-figures when I got pregnant. I walked away without a second look back. Why? Because there is no one on God's green earth who will love, care for and protect my babies better than me and my husband. I don't care how fancy or expensive your nanny or daycare center is, your baby is not their #1 priority in life. No matter what they tell you. Fast forward a few years to when my oldest hit kindergarten. He came to me one day confused because he learned that not all mommies are home with their little ones. He was genuinely concerned for them asking who was taking care of them. When I explained that sometimes mommies and daddies both have to work and the kids go to day care or after school care, he said that he was so happy that I was at home with him when he got home from school. That alone was worth all the hundreds of thousands of dollars I walked away from. Once all of my kids are in school, I will continue to stay home because of what I realized as a teen. A bad teen, at that. I grew up in a working parent family as did some of my friends. We were the ones who got in trouble because we had access to money and not such great supervision. Our parents were busy and were never home when he got home from school. They often left earlier in the morning than we did. And we were slick...too smart for our own goods. I did many things I'm not proud of. I scared myself straight at about 16. I won't worry you moms of teens with the details. On the other hand, my friends whose moms didn't work were the "good kids". They had family dinner EVERY NIGHT. Their moms were room moms and PTA and always volunteering at school. My friends often hated that their parents were so involved, but the bottom line is that they were the GOOD KIDS!! Seriously, all of them! I can't imagine that there isn't a correlation there. I'm sure others will have stories contradicting mine, but this is my life experience and the lessons I personally have learned. I have based my decision to be a SAHM on these lessons.
ReplyDelete2:57, I think there are too many other factors to consider besides whose mom stayed at home and whose mom worked.
ReplyDeleteDoes the working mom spend meaningful time with her kids on weekends and in the evenings? Is the SAHM frazzled and resentful about her choice to stay home because she has no "me" time? Is there love in the home regardless of work status? Is dad around? There are so many exterior factors that decide how kids turn out. I'm learning as I see others with older kids (high school and older) that a lot of it has to do with choices the kids themselves make. Just do your best.
If you are SAHM and hate it, there's nothing wrong with that. If you work and hate that and are able to quit, do it. If you hate your situation but can't do anything to change it, readjust your attitude.
In either situation the parents can be loving and nurturing. I think that is what matters most. I come from a home where my single mom worked all the time so I don't really know if my life would have been better or different had she not worked. We aren't super close now but that has little to do with the first 4 years of my life and more to do with the last 20 years.
3:11 again. After I read the comment above mine, I have to add that I wasn't a trouble maker either. I was a bit rebellious as a teen but never once tried drugs, never was out partying, I've never even tried a cigarette. Not because I wasn't exposed to it...my cousins were total pot heads, my sisters both tried smoking cigs before. I was just not a risk taker.
ReplyDeleteA lot has to do with the inner workings of the kid...are they prone to follow or lead? Do they have confidence to not give a crap what others think of them walking the straight and narrow path? Do they tend to want to push boundaries? Soooooo many factors determine how our kids turn out.
But by your questions you seem like a parent who really cares. I'm sure you are doing your best. I can't say they will turn out fine though. Just pray (if you do that) and love them with all you have.
thanks for the responses. looks to me from the few anecdotes above that the status of the mom working may not matter. 3:09, your mom worked and you sound like you turned out fine. I don't think anyone has established a correlation between moms that work outside the home and how their kids turn out. We all know kids who are nightmares with SAHMs and vice versa.
ReplyDeletebut i have to say that intuitively it seems like moms who are home should have calmer, happier home lives and kids but it doesn't seem to work that way.
I worked and yes, my kids were in day care from age 6 months. We could have lived in a cheaper area and I could have stayed home, but we liked the schools where we were and I wanted to make sure we would have enough $$ to live in this town. My kids are now 16 and 24. The 16 year old plays hockey and is an honor student. No troubles at all. My 24 year old daughter graduated from high school and became a hair stylist. College wasn't for her. She is not married, but has a steady boyfriend. She lives with us while she saves for her own place.
I think my kids came out fine. Please do not pity me or my kids and make statements that denigrate my choice without having something solid to back it up. I do not think less of you for staying at home but I do think less of you for criticizing me.
it's a well known fact that mother monkeys work outside the jungle
ReplyDeleteI broke down the kit the other day and it seemed worth it to me - I liked everything but for about $10 worth of the cheaper stuff. But even though I felt the pricing was fair and reasonable, and I liked some of it, I decided to save that $ for something that I loved a lot more that I'm sure will come up. I bought a few things at WMS and will be watching the upcoming pti release. I'm liking a couple of other companies too. Taylored Expressions comes to mind.
ReplyDeleteI do think the person from a few days ago was right that those nested dies are going to be a new thing for regular pti releases too.
don't understand the plates in the kit. are they regular pti impression plates with a space in them or are they a heavier material?
ReplyDeleteThoughts on the MIM video? When is it Betsy's turn again???
ReplyDeleteI had a SAHM....I was a nightmare teen. I have a teenager now, I have always worked but I have modified my work schedule and even changed careers so I could be home by the time my daughter got home from school. I would like to say that I have a "really good kid". She has never gotten into trouble outside the normal teen attitude every once in a while. All my friends and family members have nothing but great things to say about my teen. Like the poster above said, there are many factors to determine how your kids will turn out regardless of wether a parent stays home or not. We had dinner every night together, we took family vacations, we had a nice house, we had nice clothes and my mom kept our house in order...BUT we had no communication. I have respect for all the SAHM because I saw my own mother do it and seen how much work that is, but I also have respect for working moms because I am one and know how hard it is to balance that all as well.
ReplyDelete4:18 pm,
ReplyDeleteI believe that they are the regular IPs. But they have included letterpress paper in the kit because the paper is thicker and softer which allows the IP to make a deeper impression on it.
Congrats to the pot stirrer, once again she was able to start a frenzy.
ReplyDeleteDiscussions about the mommy wars will never go nicely. We are all doing what we think is best. No good mother says "hey, I know this will screw up my kids, so I'm gonna do it!" Let's just move on. No one will convince someone else to do or not do anything because of a comment left on a smack blog. Deep breath. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
ReplyDeleteHow are those Flourishes orders coming along? Anybody get theirs?
Popping in to say I finally got my Flourishes order today! I ordered on Feb. 17th for time reference. My order was fine, everything was there. Hope whoever else is waiting on their order gets it soon!
ReplyDeleteTo the owner of this blog...you can block the IP address of monkeys who post here. Just google it, and you will find instructions.
ReplyDeleterick owns this blog and knows how to block an IP address. he doesn't want to as he loves the monkeys
ReplyDeleteJust a few points:
ReplyDelete1-I think the kits are way over priced.
2-I believe in full-time parenting. I always would have regretted part-time parenting no matter how my kids turned out.
3-As a teacher for many years in many different types of schools the one think I know for sure is that the SAHM's almost always have the best kids and produce the best results. Not a bias, simply a fact. The fact that they make the kids the priority right there makes a huge difference in HOW they parent.
4-Ask your kids if quality time over quantity makes a difference. There is no 3 year old in the entire world that would rather be at daycare. If you say your kid would, then that scares the shit out of me. If your kid prefers such a setting to being with mom at that age, the bonding was never complete and things are headed your way that you don't want to envision.
5-Moms who put career over kids DO send a certain message about money being a priority over kids.
6-If you had one TV, one car for the family, a small home, and no internet, cell phone, cable, fancy vacations, etc. I will bet almost all working moms could live in one income. Single moms are a whole other basket of worms anyway.
7-People's priorities are shown and not said. You can tell your kids all you want that they are first in your life, but if you are not there when they need you, whenever they need you, they know the truth.
^^^ what a self righteous bunch of bull shit. OMG. You make SAHMs look like morons. I'll do my best to assume that you speak only for yourself but really you are an ass. i'm thinking of my sahm sister in law who has always been there for her kids. I love my sil and think she is and was a terrific mom. Too bad my nephew died of a heroin overdose.
ReplyDeleteand Just remember honey. half of marriages end in divorce. don't come crying to me when your husband tires of living with a "perfect" woman and leaves you with nothing.
Meow.
ReplyDeleteI received an email today from Archivers Online Annex. It is still up and running, with everything full price. Very strange.
ReplyDeleteI doubt after 41 years he is going anywhere 7:46.
ReplyDeleteNo one said that SAHM's don't ever have kids with problems. Some do have mental illness, addictions, etc. SAH parenting cannot overcome brain chemistry gone bad. BUT at least the SAHM doesn't have to wonder if it would have turned out if she had been a full time parent.
ReplyDeleteglad to hear you got your flourishes order! i wonder who is buying the company.
ReplyDeleteAnything new in the Copic world?
ReplyDelete7:46, seems someone really hit a nerve with you, huh?
ReplyDeleteMONKEY ASS
ReplyDeleteOh yeah.
ReplyDeleteWho the hell is Ted?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure but apparently he loves monkeys so he's fine with me.
ReplyDeletePLEASE GIVE TO ME THE INFORMATION TO BUY THE STAMP OF A MONKEY. I MUST HAVE. I CAN PAY. PLEASE CONTACT ME WHEN I CAN BUY.
ReplyDeleteSinges mangent des bananes
ReplyDeleteJ'adore les singes. Les singes sont mignons.
ReplyDeleteDefacate de singes dans la jungle
ReplyDeleteYou're cracking me up!!!!
ReplyDeleteLe pénis est dans le vagin
ReplyDeleteMon cul se sent comme de la merde
ReplyDeleteMes pieds une odeur de cul
ReplyDeleteMONKEY JUNIOR, COME OUT AND PLAY!
ReplyDeletePrefiero hablar en español. Yo no hablo a francés muy bien. ¿Quién es este mono mencionaste?
ReplyDeleteEske yonn nan nou pale Creoe Ayisyen an?
ReplyDeleteWhat the fuck is this, the United Nations? Bwahaha
ReplyDeleteI am waiting for the stamp of a monkey. What is this stamp?
ReplyDeleteCan the stamp of a monkey I buy. Not sure when I will be.
ReplyDeleteWhen you will be what?
ReplyDeleteYes, when I will be.
ReplyDeleteBE WHAT?
ReplyDeleteMine too!
ReplyDeleteDer Penis ist in der Scheide
ReplyDeleteHaben junge Affen einen Penis?
ReplyDeleteOf course.
ReplyDeleteMONKEY ASS
ReplyDeleteWow, the monkey can use google translate. Who knew?
ReplyDeleteStill no Flourishes shipping notice for me. Ordered on the 20th. Should I write them for a refund or wait some more?
ReplyDeletePTI has a monkey stamp in the tremendous treats and tiny treats. Good luck.
ReplyDeletefrom one SAHM to another, wow lady, I wouldn't want you near my kids. We aren't all beotches
ReplyDeleteWow. With that narrow mind and ignorance, I can tell your kids are so wonderful.
ReplyDeletehey, be grateful for what you have, whatever it is. if you are at home and think it is best, enjoy it and be quiet. if you work, and think it is best, enjoy it and be quiet. i'm embarrassed to be a woman reading this blog lately. Rick, you must be laughing your ass off.
ReplyDeleteI am very grateful and I do enjoy my life very much. That is all.
ReplyDeleteI am grateful for my life and keeping quiet is a sign of a person who doesn't care about society. All it takes is for enough people to keep quiet and you have what we are experiencing with kids in general these days.
ReplyDeleteI am the casual observer
ReplyDeleteYikes, the pot stirrer is laughing her head off.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you guys fall for this crap?
Take a breath (or a pill) and relax.
This is a stamp smack blog. SMH
Ok, here's me not keeping quiet......
ReplyDeleteI'm with you 10:00 AM. But more sad than embarrassed. Why is it that there are some women who feel the need to tear other women down instead of support them? There are generations of women that come before us that fought to give us the ability to choose for ourselves what is best for our lives. No matter whether you work or stay at home, support each other!! We are all women.
Do the sneak peeks at PTI start tomorrow?
ReplyDeleteTo 11:03 am,
ReplyDeleteThis!!
Stop reacting and start thinking before you post. Just ignore the shi*t disturbers.
To 11:16 am,
ReplyDeleteMost of the posts were made by the sh*t disturber, not by sincere women. Stop reacting. SMH
What does SMH mean?
ReplyDeleteShaking my head.
ReplyDeleteJust got my ship notice from my Flourishes order on the 18th
ReplyDeletegood, they really are a stand up company. enjoy the stamps
ReplyDeleteI just learned that THE Jennifer McGuire lives in Cincinnati right along with PTI. I do find it interesting that someone who has had such a long successful career in this industry was never a part of PTI DT or anything. She rocks...I love her!! Have you seen the pics of her new craft room?? Unreal. She posted one to her Instagram.
ReplyDeleteJennifer works in the industry, meaning that she makes real money at that. You cannot make any money working on a DT, including PTI's. That is why as many DT members as possible try and design stamps or leave to create their own companies. PTI is no different than most stamp companies -- they give free product and maybe a few dollars to these women. Kind of sad but whatever.
ReplyDeleteIn addition, there is a whole world of papercrafting big wigs who NEVER use PTI and never have -- Julie Ebersole, Kristina Werner, etc. You'll have to ask them why. (smile)
All of those girls you mentioned ^ are SO good! I want to just hang out with them in their craft rooms for a few days. Is that creepy? :) Everyday I check out Jennifer's, Julie's, and Kristina's blogs. They are the reason I have bought so much Mama Elephant, Avery Elle and other SSS and EH lately. I would be interested to hear why they never use PTI products, though. Especially Jennifer since she was such a big Paper Crafts go-to gal, which had a strong PTI bias in its published cards.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why. Maybe it is because they are focused on promoting products for compensation. this is not a criticism. the more we all can make the better!!!
ReplyDeleteI think people make way too big of a deal out of DT members. They make cards. Big whoop.
ReplyDeletePTI should farm out their products to distributors. Let people buy their products at other online stores. Their biggest challenge seems to be customer service and shipping,so just take that out of the equation and they would do better.
It is much better business model for stamp companies to sell online themselves (& possibly through online stores) and to stay away from distributors & brick & mortar stores. Look at all the LSSs that have closed.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Nichole used to be a PaperCrafts Go-to-Gal?
ReplyDeleteKim Hughes from paper Smooches used to be a Go-to-Gal.
Jennifer used to work a lot more for Hero Arts, especially when their catalogs used to be a hot item to buy and collect. Now she freelances for many companies.
ReplyDelete^^^
ReplyDeleteForgot to add that Jennifer now seems to be mainly working via her blog and Youtube channel. Which is good for all her followers, including me. LOL
You have to admit that blogs, Yutube and Pinterest have changed the way all of us look for and find ideas & inspiration and new stamps to buy.
Kim Hughes was on the PTI DT before she left to start Paper Smooches. Betsy and Jessica were also Go-To Gals. There's a strong PTI history with the go to gals and Paper Crafts mag.
ReplyDeleteBetsy still is a go-to-gal. :) I knew Kim and Jessica were once go-to-gals and that Jessica was once on the PTI DT. But I don't think Kim was ever on the PTI DT.
ReplyDeleteonline retailers take 50% of the gross sales. So if a stamp set sells for $24, the online store gets $12. PTI and others are MUCH better off with a small staff so that they can reap more of their profit. However, you make a good point. If your CS is so bad that you lose customers, then selling wholesale is the way to go.
ReplyDeleteOn the DT thing, I agree. In the tiny little world of stamping, being on PTI's DT is considered amazing, when almost all stamped cards are viewed as a joke by anyone outside the hobby.
Jennifer, Kristina and Julie have been around a lot longer than PTI. They've built up a good following and don't need (or want, probably) to be associated with PTI.
ReplyDeleteI know that Kristina doesn't hesitate to use SU inks in her videos and now SSS & AE. Jennifer has always used HA inks and then TH Distress inks, now she is using SSS and AE inks. They both now work with SSS, so it is not surprising. Although I am sure that they would not promote products that they did not like.
Here is the announcement of Kim Hughes joining the PTI DT back in 2009.
ReplyDeletehttp://nicholeheady.typepad.com/capture_the_moment/2009/11/changes.html
Never saw her name on Nichole's blog. I do remember her stepping down as a PC Go-to-gal though when she started Paper Smooches.
ReplyDeleteWhen Kim left the DT, Nichole brought in Jessica.
ReplyDeletehttp://nicholeheady.typepad.com/capture_the_moment/2010/11/a-goodbye-and-a-hello.html
Now I understand why Kim asked Betsy and Erin to join the PS DT.
ReplyDelete2009 was a big year for her.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.papercraftsconnection.com/blog/2009/07/welcome-go-to-gal-kim-hughes/
Julie was with A Muse for a long time and there is a history between PTI and A Muse that is not good. I imagine this is why Julie never had anything to do with PTI. In fact, I don't know an A Muse DT that ever crossed that line.
ReplyDeletewhat's the history please????????
ReplyDelete7:48 I wouldn't believe everything that's posted here.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't believe ANYTHING that's posted here.
ReplyDeleteWhat is SAHM? Some amazingly hot monkey?
ReplyDeleteMONKEY ASS
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, Julie is a self-righteous, stuck up bitch.
ReplyDeleteWait, which Julie?
ReplyDeleteI remember her. I used to check her blog all the time until all of her cards started looking the same (and boring at that) and she kept using stupid words like cuppa, ginormous and chortle.
ReplyDeleteI heart that Nichole and Julie hate each other and there was some big argument or something.
ReplyDeleteMy feet smell really bad. Help!
ReplyDeleteThat's the one. Everything was Uber Super Awesome Sauce. Her peeps were the most spesh people in the world and they made fabby cards and were soooooooooo fristy-frosty.
ReplyDeleteJulie's word choice is a bit annoying, but I really like her cards. Like many designers, she definitely has a "style" that is easily identifiable. I think it's cute. To each his/her own.
ReplyDeleteI never knew the details but I always felt Lauren Meador's departure was not pleasant.
ReplyDeleteNichole has had a falling out with more people than you can imagine including Lauren, Gina K., Julie and too many to name. There are a number of people in the business that don't want to be associated with Nichole in any way. They want their integrity to be unquestioned and being in any way connected to Nichole makes a person suspect.
ReplyDeleteThere was a pact for a bunch of these women to silently walk away, never say a bad word about Nichole, and pray for Karma. It all made me believe in Karma as I have watched what has happened.
ReplyDeleteBelieve half of what you see and none of what you hear. Nobody so far has any clue as to what they are talking about.
ReplyDelete10:18 So how do you know this?
ReplyDeleteAs a previous DT member for PTI, I can tell you I made over $6K a year (just from them) for my "hobby".
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't. Ignore her.
ReplyDelete10:32 And who are you?
ReplyDeleteMONKEY ASS
ReplyDeleteI
ReplyDeleteWANT
ReplyDeleteTHE
ReplyDeleteSTAMP
ReplyDeleteOF
ReplyDeleteA
ReplyDeleteMONKEY
ReplyDeleteLet's play "Guess who 10:32 is"
ReplyDeleteI want to buy the stamp of a monkey. Please help me to buy.
ReplyDeleteMy guess would be a liar.
ReplyDeleteShe might as well say she's the man in the moon
ReplyDeleteSAHM = Sweaty Ass Hot Monkey
ReplyDeleteChortle
ReplyDeleteWhat is this monkey shit?
ReplyDelete9:50, it's Meader not Meador
ReplyDeleteOh that Julie.
ReplyDeleteWhat is PTI?
ReplyDeleteMonkey
ReplyDelete10:16 and 10:18 do you have proof of what you posted? Remember karma works both ways,
ReplyDeletethe other day i was thinking about life and this blog and decided tolet you all know what i am thinking. i'm thinking that this blog is an abomination on the sanctity of the paper crafting community. please repent, seek forgiveness, and resolve to never post here again. and when you are done sahm you may go into the kitchen and bake. and the engineer cn go backto work and be good there too. the inks are fine and vey nice. i like all the monkey stamps offered by stamp companies. do they stamp ok or are they an abominatin too whent he fountain spills the water we all get wet and then need a towelto dry off and that is the end of the sotry except it keeps on going and going and then the boy confessed to who did it and his mom cried because she wanted the shower curtain to be pink and not blue and then the lamp went on and on and yes i have proof but the if i told you who i was the money and the monkey would be no one would like me. amen amen i say to you amen. please be nce today it is all that matters except for the monkeys and the lamps and the shower curtains. i need my meds
ReplyDeleteI believe this place confirms that women's cycles can sync up.
ReplyDeleteI miss product and company discussions. I even miss card design beatings.
SAHM or working moms don't need to defend yourselves. Do what fits your life.
I don't believe anything I hear when people gossip.
ReplyDeleteI always thought that Nichole started with Stampin Up. Maybe I'm wrong. Does that have anything to do with her and Kristina Werner not being pals?
ReplyDeleteKW, that's another one I could smack all day on this blog. She gives the impression that her stuff doesn't smell. But rather than spend energy on someone I don't care for, I'm moving on.
NEXT!
I don't get that impression of KW at all. Her videos are well done and I like her blog. There are enough designers that we can find the ones that fit our tastes.
ReplyDeleteI visited Julie E's blog after the reminder here. Like 9:25, I had been put off in the past by some of her writing style. I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw in my visit. Seems to be enough inspiration there to keep me going back. And I no longer read blog posts ,,,,, I just look at the pictures!
ReplyDeleteI like some of Julie's cards. But she uses tweezers for every.little.thing! She doesn't like to get her hands dirty. WTH?
ReplyDeleteI like some of Kristina's videos. But too much faux stitching and rounded corners.
I like Jennifer's videos. Her fingers get inky! LOL
Are there that many former PTI DT members?
ReplyDeleteKim Hughes, Jessica Witty, Michelle Wooderson, Lauren Meader (templates only?), ... ??
^Becky Ohlers, Lisa Johnson, Beth Silaka...
ReplyDeleteI know this is a smack blog but daaaayum Danielle Flanders' man is HOT HOT HOT.
ReplyDelete^^Geny Cassady, Niki Estes
ReplyDelete^^^ Taylor Van Bruggen ( from Taylored Expressions), Jennifer Ellefson (sort of), Alli Miles
ReplyDeleteOther former PTI: Candice Aguilar (stamp design), Amy Rysavy (design team), & Debbie Olsen (design team).
ReplyDeleteSo there are many.
ReplyDeleteNext topic, any thoughts on the peeks?
I like the polka dots.
ReplyDeleteAhh Jennifer Ellefson, I did feel sorry for her, she really did just *disappear* from PTI, I don't think I ever saw her come back and just comment as a stamper and she stopped blogging in 2011.
ReplyDeleteI've seen her post on other people's facebook pages. I imagine life is a bit easier without being the front line at pti when things were at their worst.
ReplyDeletePoor Jennifer. She was really sweet. I remember she offered to pay a customer out of her own pocket on the forum when Nichole and Julie were being stubborn during one of the public backlashes of a customer service fail. For a while she was still getting together with a few girls in the VA area when they had stamp weekends or whatever. I saw her in pictures some of them posted on their blogs.
ReplyDeleteWoah! I fell down the rabbit hole of the Truth About Ruth blog that was posted the other day. Major crazy on that one and I'm only just now getting into the SCS stuff. I remember seeing posts from Scarlett on SCS, though I don't think I ever posted to her. That whole thing is seriously f'ed up.
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